Saturday, October 17, 2015

Did The Rothschilds Finance John D. Rockefeller?

[Editor's note 10/17/2015: We have revised some of the views we made in this article during a dark period of our understanding of the Rothschild menace. The article remains untouched except for a misleading adverb, but does not generally reflect our current assessment of the Rothschilds.]

Many conspiracists believe that the Rothschilds financed the Rockefeller oil empire. While it is an attractive idea to lump all of the plutocrats into a monolithic league of evil, the facts do not support an affirmative answer to our question.

Regular readers of this blog will recognize Will Banyan as a writer whose works we have consulted before, and again, he provides the excellent research relevant to our thesis. He points out that the theory of a Rothschild-Rockefeller connection is old but has two of its strongest supporters in the persons of David Icke and Eustace Mullins, both well known for their varying brands of conspiracy theory.

The line of argument is that National City Bank of Cleveland was a Rothschild owned bank from which John Rockefeller borrowed substantial sums to propel his oil business to meteoric heights. What the better biographies reveal is that Rockefeller borrowed first from family and then a man named Truman Handy and later William Otis and Stillman Witt. When his appetite for capital grew further, he turned to Henry Flagler who was able to bring in the substantial sums Rockefeller required to fuel his rapid business growth. The Rothschilds are not to be found.

Banyan proceeds to describe other banking relationships which Rockefeller fostered and nurtured, especially in Cleveland during the early years of his business development. However, one bank, National City Bank of Cleveland, caught the attention of Mullins. Its interest stems from a House Banking Committee report from May 1976 which showed that a Rothschild firm held an interest in this bank in the 1970s. Nowhere is there any evidence that any of the far-flung family held any interest in the bank in the 19th century. In fact, August Belmont, an agent for the family, lamented his client’s lack of interest in the important American market.

It is thus highly unlikely – though not proven – that there is any factual basis to implicate the Rothschilds in John Rockefeller’s phenomenal oil success. But Banyan does not stop there. He further points out that there is no credible evidence linking the Rothschilds to any globalist scheme. In fact, he quotes Cecil Rhodes as deploring Lord Nathaniel Rothschild as “absolutely incapable” of understanding his dream of an Anglo-American world government.

We should also note that it is impossible to intelligently speak of the Rothschilds as though they were a homogenous lot of Illuminati. The family is simply too diverse and large for sweeping accusations to be made. While we believe that conspiracies exist, we should not become peddlers of false and mischievous ones. We have troubles enough handling that truth that we do not need to traduce our cause with fake conspiracies.

The Invisible Man of the New World Order: Raymond B. Fosdick (1883-1972), Will Banyan

Copyright 2010-12 Tony Bonn. All rights reserved.


Ray Songtree said...

There is more evidence. Please start here.


"Thus the ancient calumny of John D. Rockefeller as a man obsessed by greed (a category in which he has plenty of company) obscures the act that from the day the Rothschilds began to finance his march towards a total oil monopoly in the United States from their coffers at the National City Bank of Cleveland, Rockefeller was never an independent power, nor does any department of the Rockefeller Syndicate
operate as an independent power."

..."However much of the Rockefeller wealth may be attributed to old John D.'s rapacity and ruthlessness, its origins are indubitably based in his initial financing from the National City Bank of Cleveland, which was identified in Congressional reports as one of the three Rothschild banks in the United States and by his later acceptance of the guidance of Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb & Company, who had been born in the Rothschild house in Frankfort and was now the principal Rothschild representative (but unknown as such to the public) in the United States.

Ray Songtree said...

The entire page is worth reading.

The capability of devising and enacting the "National Reserve Plan", as the immediate result of the Jekyll Island expedition was called, was easily within the powers of the Kuhn, Loeb-Morgan alliance [Jacob Schiff of the Rothschilds], according to the following from McClure’s Magazine, August 1911, "The Seven Men" by John Moody:

"Seven men in Wall Street now control a great share of the fundamental industry and resources of the United States. Three of the seven men, J.P. Morgan, James J. Hill, and George F. Baker, head of the First National Bank of New York belong to the so-called Morgan group; four of them, John D. and William Rockefeller, James Stillman, head of the National City Bank, and Jacob H. Schiff of the private banking firm of Kuhn, Loeb Company to the so-called Standard Oil City Bank group... the central machine of capital extends its control over the United States... The process is not only economically logical; it is now practically automatic."

Ray Songtree said...

the last comment was from

Finally the intermarriage of Rockefellers and Stillman of the Rothschild bank First National, or National City bank, now Citi Bank. This bank took over Cuba after the false flag attack of USS Maine in Havana. This is a Rothschild bank with early intermarriage between players.

William Avery Rockefeller Jr. (1841-1922) was the younger brother of John D. Rockefeller and co-founder of the Standard Oil Company. He married Almira Geraldine Goodsell. His son, William Goodsell Rockefeller (1870-1922) married Elsie Stillman, daughter of National City Bank president James Stillman, and were the parents of William Avery Rockefeller (1896-1973), Godfrey Stillman Rockefeller (1899-1983), James Stillman Rockefeller (1902-2004), John Sterling Rockefeller (1904-1988), and Almira Geraldine Rockefeller (1907- ). (William Goodsell Rockefeller, B.A. 1892. Bulletin of Yale University. Obituary Record of Yale Graduates 1922-1923, pp. 173-174.) Another son, Percy Avery Rockefeller (1878-1934), was Skull & Bones 1900.

William Rockefeller / Wikipedia
Obituary Record 1922-1923 / Yale University Library (pdf, 385 pp)

The National City Bank of New York, 1898-99

Directors: Samuel Sloan, Lawrence Turnure, Rosewell G. Rolston, Cleveland H. Dodge, Henry A.C. Taylor, William Rockefeller, H. Walter Webb, Francis M. Bacon, M. Taylor Pyne, William Douglas Sloane, Robert Bacon, James Stillman re-elected, and John A. McCall, William S. Bogert, and James A. Stillman. (Annual Bank Elections. New York Times, Jan. 12, 1898.) In 1899, its principal directors were Samuel Sloan, also First Vice President, Chairman of the Delaware Western and Lackawanna Railroad; William Rockefeller President of the Standard Oil Company; Henry O. Havemeyer, President of the American Sugar Refining Company;

Tony Bonn said...

Thank you for posting your links. This article was an early effort written without a full understanding of the satanic Rothschild regime. Our article, even if factually correct on the narrow point of a particular bank mentioned by Mullins, is in dire need of revision as Rothschild tentacles have reached into America in the most ingenious ways. The relationship between the Rothschilds and Rockefellers turns out to be more complex than we originally wished to admit.

Ray Songtree said...

(continued) Your contention that there is no further evidence of National Bank support of John D Rockefeller is beguiled by the fact that his brother William had his son's marry Stillman's daughters, and that Stillman and Rockefeller and Schiff all worked together for years. Schiff found his new puppet, John D, and the the Rockefeller brothers entered the secret fraternity.

Ray Songtree said...

Sorry, I just saw your response. I very much appreciate your research and outlook, very much so. Many people have missed the Rothschild reach. The role of Jacob Schiff is monstrous. I am just reading E Michael Jones book (, and 15 years ago, he didn't get this connection either. Thank you very much for your work. Please download my free ebook. We are all growing and sharing.