tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-437084226490579730.post5548828696819037756..comments2024-03-17T00:15:35.041-04:00Comments on The American Chronicle: Was The Zapruder Film Altered - Redux?Tony Bonnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12837898079588982436noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-437084226490579730.post-47331568175479302222014-07-03T16:33:31.934-04:002014-07-03T16:33:31.934-04:00Although I am not in accord with all that Fiester ...Although I am not in accord with all that Fiester has advocated, I laud her attempts to bring forensic analysis to bear on the murder problem.<br /><br />the main difficulty with so much killing zone analysis is that it assumes that there was a single shooting location, a defenseless assumption which can put one inside an envelope inside of a box - to say nothing of the riddle and conundrum.<br /><br />the solution to the many evidences is that multiple shooters, including sheriffs and dpd officers, shot at the president. it was almost a 360 degree job.<br /><br />my personal view is that the lethal shot came from within the limousine itself, a point not inconsistent with fiester's larger conclusion that the shot came from the front.<br /><br />regarding zapruder, based upon his cia connections and white Russian background, I am certain that he was no innocent bystander. he was recording "the big event" for the cia.Tony Bonnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12837898079588982436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-437084226490579730.post-34879420491278915972014-07-03T12:18:01.230-04:002014-07-03T12:18:01.230-04:001.I spoke with Sherry Fiester in Pittsburgh (Wecht...1.I spoke with Sherry Fiester in Pittsburgh (Wecht Conference 2013) & reminded her that James Tague had always stated that he believed that the shots came from the knoll not from the South end of the overpass - he was one of the closest witnesses to where Fiester claimed the shots emanated from & he does not support her theory.<br /><br />2. There are over 50 witnesses to the limousine coming to a stop - I seriously doubt they can all be mistaken.<br /><br />3. Abraham Zapruder's Dec. 4, 1963 statement to the FBI "seals the deal" in regards to the extant film being altered - "the control buttons for the maximum zoom lens were not touched once he started to take photographs of the Preisential motorcade... Zapruder stated that he first picked up the motorcade as it made the turn on to Elm Street from Houston Street... from that point(he continued to film)until it disappeared from sight".<br /><br />4.That is clearly not what the extant film shows today - the limousine appears out of nowhwere halfway down Elm Street - Zapruder states very clearly that<br />we should see the president's car turn from Houston onto Elm but the current film does not show that.<br /><br />5. Finally with all due respect to Sherry Fiester - Dino Brugioni v Sherry Fiester on the authenticity of the Zapruder film - no contest for Brugioni!<br /><br />R. Andrew KielR. Andrew KIelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-437084226490579730.post-42878504101252481502014-06-05T08:23:49.937-04:002014-06-05T08:23:49.937-04:00Your presuming a. the copy held by Zapruder was no...Your presuming a. the copy held by Zapruder was not swooped with an edited version. b. That the Sixth floor museum acted impartially c. That the version was not planted with Mr Zapruder to perpetuate the lie. That's a lot of presumptions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-437084226490579730.post-69956576208226513382013-10-10T03:16:45.277-04:002013-10-10T03:16:45.277-04:00You do our country a favor by posting this. I'...You do our country a favor by posting this. I've read Horne's material. These witnesses are lifelong public servants and military people with no motivation to make up stories or to lie. Most are at the end of their lives with even less motivation not to tell the truth.<br />In a bit more than a month, we'll be marking the fiftieth anniversary of the loss of JFK and of our country's innocence. The public will be craving information and I hope they happen upon Horne's work. The more it's out there the more likely they will, so your essay is a service. It's been lonely knowing what I know about the events on that day and after, knowing what I know about our country and it's far right regime and what they can do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-437084226490579730.post-33555684656680011252013-04-14T22:06:48.337-04:002013-04-14T22:06:48.337-04:00I hope everyone buys at least one copy of your boo...I hope everyone buys at least one copy of your book as I consider it an outstanding contribution to understanding the JFK murder. But I do part company with you on the issue of the Zapruder film on 3 points - points which I should have included in my essay.<br /><br />1. Credible eye witnesses testified to 2 film formats - one in fully processed 8 mm format and one in the 16 mm unslit format. Brugioni's team received the 8mm format on Saturday while McMahon's team received the unslit 16 mm format on Sunday. The inescapable conclusion is that there were 2 versions of the film.<br /><br />2. Modern logarithmic flat scans of the public Zapruder film show evidence of crude film alteration and editing. Horne goes into some detail on this point.<br /><br />3. Thus the match between the two versions you mentioned could be accounted for by comparisons between 2 copies of the modified movie. Indeed this is the conclusion Horne draws - ie, the first day copies were swapped out for the modified ones.<br /><br />4. Bonus point - The actions of Clint Hill's testimony - which the modified version largely omits - are fully corroborated by Brugioni's team members who saw the camera-original.<br /><br />There are other reasons supplied by Horne (and Marrs) to conclude that the Zapruder film was altered. I was always bothered by the unnatural or jerky motion observed in parts of the film which I think is best explained by film alteration.<br /><br />Of course this does not answer questions about the location of the camera-original Zapruder movie and the 3 original first day copies. I suspect that they are burried deep in the bowels of the CIA and Secret Service - or next to George Bush's night stand.<br /><br />I do not believe that an altered Zapruder film conflicts in any fundamental way with the forensic evidence you supply in your book - and certainly does not force any changes regarding the location of the triple over pass shooter and the frontal shot.<br /><br />Finally, on a more personal note, I have been a supporter of the Zapruder film integrity ever since I became a conspiracy theorist many years ago, but have been forced to jetison that opinion based upon Horne's evidence.<br />Tony Bonnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12837898079588982436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-437084226490579730.post-19669526869440267702013-04-14T17:11:59.321-04:002013-04-14T17:11:59.321-04:00My apologies for posting my comment before includ...My apologies for posting my comment before including this: Zapruder held a copy of the film that no one was aware of. After his death, that unknown copy was given to the Sixth Floor who had it compared to the original. They were an exact match.Sherry Fiesterhttp://www.sherryfiester.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-437084226490579730.post-6587606664519140202013-04-14T17:04:26.230-04:002013-04-14T17:04:26.230-04:00My book, Enemy of the Truth does not reach the con...My book, Enemy of the Truth does not reach the conclusion the limo stopped. It offers an explanation as to why witness have differences of opinion concerning the limo stop. This is a quote from that chapter of the book's conclusion:<br /><br />"The variance in the statements of witnesses concerning the limousine stopping can be explained forensically by the application of time dilation. Based upon research, Dealey Plaza witnesses may have experienced the extraordinary<br />perception of slowed time; a credible explanation for erroneously believing the limousine stopped. Their brain processed an unprecedented amount of detail in a short period resulting in a distorted perception of time. As a result, for those few witnesses during the extraordinary moments of the assassination of President Kennedy, time stood still."<br /><br />More important is the back spatter show in frame 313. That could not have been altered as it was not a field of study until 1983. Yet, it is correct in time generated, time of dissipation, and pattern dimension.Sherry Fiesterhttp://www.sherryfiester.comnoreply@blogger.com